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 Post subject: Re: Boss Analysis
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:08 am 
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THX1138 wrote:
DONE !


Here you can find an excel file, with the raw data, and the final predictor.
Just type in (in the first table) the desired DM level, and take a look ;)


It doesn't allow me to edit.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:21 am 
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ManOfSteel wrote:
THX1138 wrote:
DONE !


Here you can find an excel file, with the raw data, and the final predictor.
Just type in (in the first table) the desired DM level, and take a look ;)


It doesn't allow me to edit.


Yes,
you have to download it, then you can use it.
Sorry, but it's not advisable (nowadays) to let such a file 'world editable' (it would just be a call for trouble)...

Btw, have you noticed that I have 'heavily edited' the 'boss scaling post' above?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:54 am 
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ManOfSteel,
I just noticed one thing
the Boss/Titan health is always the Boss/Titan Level multiplied by 80, right?
Sooooo
Ryth should have reached the magic number of level 27048884.11
at DM231, which means your's Ryth has already 'surpassed' 2 billion of health points...

So, now the question is:
had his health 'rolled over', or is it capped at 'just' 2 billion?????
??????

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 Post subject: Re: Boss Analysis
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:14 pm 
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THX1138 wrote:
ManOfSteel,
I just noticed one thing
the Boss/Titan health is always the Boss/Titan Level multiplied by 80, right?
Sooooo
Ryth should have reached the magic number of level 27048884.11
at DM231, which means your's Ryth has already 'surpassed' 2 billion of health points...

So, now the question is:
had his health 'rolled over', or is it capped at 'just' 2 billion?????
??????


Actually no. Funny you should ask. I actually had this information on my desk at work. I meant to post it a while ago. The ratio changes from Boss to Boss. Additionally, Isa takes off 10% of her Boss's lives with her arrow. These are the ratios for each boss as well as the correction for Isa'a arrow.

Health/Level ratio
Raidriar I - 79.43
Terrovax - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Therin - 79.43
Thane - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Varun - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Zuorsara - 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
Oslim 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Minnoch 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Ausar - 88.51
Melek - 79.43
Lelindre - 79.43 for both Isa and Siris. Lelindre catches the arrow!
Ryth (Siris) - 68.89
Ryth (Isa) 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow

Raidriar II 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
The Worker - 70.81

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:21 pm 
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Based on my calculations, Ryth will be just under 2 billion at DM 239 and goes over at 240. He should go over the magic number at DM 248 and be just under it at DM 247. I'm curious to see if his health will be stuck at 2,000,000,000 between DM 240 and DM 247 or if it will go up incrementally. I've slowed my playing while focusing on another game but I'll have some free time over Christmas. I'm currently at DM 234 facing off an Immune to Magic Therin at level 5,542,850 :(

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:22 pm 
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I'll do a spot check just in case though :D

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:33 am 
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ManOfSteel wrote:
THX1138 wrote:
ManOfSteel,
I just noticed one thing
the Boss/Titan health is always the Boss/Titan Level multiplied by 80, right?
Sooooo
Ryth should have reached the magic number of level 27048884.11
at DM231, which means your's Ryth has already 'surpassed' 2 billion of health points...

So, now the question is:
had his health 'rolled over', or is it capped at 'just' 2 billion?????
??????


Actually no. Funny you should ask. I actually had this information on my desk at work. I meant to post it a while ago. The ratio changes from Boss to Boss. Additionally, Isa takes off 10% of her Boss's lives with her arrow. These are the ratios for each boss as well as the correction for Isa'a arrow.

Health/Level ratio
Raidriar I - 79.43
Terrovax - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Therin - 79.43
Thane - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Varun - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Zuorsara - 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
Oslim 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Minnoch 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Ausar - 88.51
Melek - 79.43
Lelindre - 79.43 for both Isa and Siris. Lelindre catches the arrow!
Ryth (Siris) - 68.89
Ryth (Isa) 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow

Raidriar II 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
The Worker - 70.81


Thanks,
I have updated the excel table with those values.
In fact, a good question is: 'with the in game math' 'where (if) the flip will occur',
I mean, 2^31 - 1 = 2,147,483,647
And this should be the 'highest value'.

Being so, with your Bosses ratio above,
at DM 248 ryth should have 2,147,071,722.09 (Siris).
so yeah, between 248/249 you will know ;)

It could be funny if, 'all the sudden', ryth has near zero health :D

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 Post subject: Re: Boss Analysis
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:06 pm 
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THX1138 wrote:
ManOfSteel wrote:
THX1138 wrote:
ManOfSteel,
I just noticed one thing
the Boss/Titan health is always the Boss/Titan Level multiplied by 80, right?
Sooooo
Ryth should have reached the magic number of level 27048884.11
at DM231, which means your's Ryth has already 'surpassed' 2 billion of health points...

So, now the question is:
had his health 'rolled over', or is it capped at 'just' 2 billion?????
??????


Actually no. Funny you should ask. I actually had this information on my desk at work. I meant to post it a while ago. The ratio changes from Boss to Boss. Additionally, Isa takes off 10% of her Boss's lives with her arrow. These are the ratios for each boss as well as the correction for Isa'a arrow.

Health/Level ratio
Raidriar I - 79.43
Terrovax - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Therin - 79.43
Thane - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Varun - 71.49 after arrow, 79.43 before arrow
Zuorsara - 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
Oslim 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Minnoch 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow
Ausar - 88.51
Melek - 79.43
Lelindre - 79.43 for both Isa and Siris. Lelindre catches the arrow!
Ryth (Siris) - 68.89
Ryth (Isa) 62.00 after arrow, 68.89 before arrow

Raidriar II 79.66 after arrow, 88.51 before arrow
The Worker - 70.81


Thanks,
I have updated the excel table with those values.
In fact, a good question is: 'with the in game math' 'where (if) the flip will occur',
I mean, 2^31 - 1 = 2,147,483,647
And this should be the 'highest value'.

Being so, with your Bosses ratio above,
at DM 248 ryth should have 2,147,071,722.09 (Siris).
so yeah, between 248/249 you will know ;)

It could be funny if, 'all the sudden', ryth has near zero health :D


Interesting how we are using differently approximations and formulae but we came up with the same DM number for "The Event". Would be interesting if we became one hit killers to Ryth after DM 249 LOL

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:35 pm 
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THX1138 wrote:
ManOfSteel,
I just noticed one thing
the Boss/Titan health is always the Boss/Titan Level multiplied by 80, right?
Sooooo
Ryth should have reached the magic number of level 27048884.11
at DM231, which means your's Ryth has already 'surpassed' 2 billion of health points...

So, now the question is:
had his health 'rolled over', or is it capped at 'just' 2 billion?????
??????


DM 234. Ryth is "only" 1.9 billion in health https://youtu.be/Z-DhARidN1A

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:19 pm 
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ManOfSteel wrote:

DM 234. Ryth is "only" 1.9 billion in health https://youtu.be/Z-DhARidN1A

Nice !
The 5-series predictor is working quite nicely.
For DM234, Ryth predicted level: 27,715,080.41
and health....
Ryth (Siris) 1,909,291,889.44
Ryth (Isa) 1,718,362,700.49

So, Ryth level was off by just 80 points...

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